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Posted: 24 April 2011 08:07 PM
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Video sam na sajtu od B92, čni mi se da nije bilo priče ovde

http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/

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Posted: 25 April 2011 05:52 AM   [ # 1 ]
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Je l’ se na kraju zna čemu služe ove informacije?
Blago sam isfrikov’o sad kad sam video detaljno ispraćene moje putešestvije od kupovine ajfona na ovamo, na nivou opština, sa sve datumima… (a kako sam nomad, tačkica je veoma, veoma, veoma mnogo)

Generalno, pošto sam pošten čovek, nemam potrebu da se krijem pa da instaliram sa Cydie ono čudo koje ovo briše (i onako se prilično rado geo-checkinujem na socnetove - da me neko juri, lako bi me našao) - čak u nekom apsurdnom scenariju bi ovakav tip informacije mogao da bude od koristi (kao ultra-klimav dokaz da nisam šmrkao kokain sa mrtvih kurvi jer sam baš u to vreme švercovao Moldavke); ali mi trenutni nedostatak informacija blago udara na paranoju, po principu ‘zašto moj frižider mora da zna od koje komšinice uzimam kajmak’.

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Posted: 25 April 2011 01:04 PM   [ # 2 ]
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pa to se pre par dana digla zesca frka oko ovoga cak je jedan americki senator reagovao zasto apple skuplja takve podatke i da to zesce narusava privatnost. Njihov odgovor je bio da tako prate ljude da odredjene aplikacije salju lokalizovane reklame [my ass] i kao da je to trebalo da prati iAD njihov. Inace bajo sa gore pomenutog linka je to otkrio sta se radi pa je obelodanio i digla se frka.

Vec vidim Apple za 50ak godina salju terminatora iz buducnosti na zemlju da resi problematicnog coveka :D

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Posted: 25 April 2011 01:18 PM   [ # 3 ]
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track me with this bitch!

[img size=250]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p3XIipv981Y/S_asP58vxPI/AAAAAAAAAUA/8B20doflMwA/s1600/old+phone.jpg[/img]

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Posted: 25 April 2011 05:26 PM   [ # 4 ]
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A u međuvremenu otkriveno da i Android radi istu stvar.

Ne vidim čemu paranoja, zar mislite da mobilni provajderi to već ne rade odavno i šalju po potrebi ‘tamo gde treba’?

Drugo, pročtah još u petak blog onog lika koji reče da je još u decembru 2010. objavio podatak u knjizi. Takođe reče da je to oduvek bilo u iOS-u, samo je ranije snimano u hidden .plist fajl, sada u non-hidden sqlite bazu.

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Posted: 25 April 2011 05:33 PM   [ # 5 ]
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Da, rade, nije to sporno jer odredjuju gde se nalazis. Ali ovde se desava da recimo od kupovine uredjaja svaki tvoj pokret je snimljen i u bazi stoji gde si sve kretao sa svojim uredjajem za razliku od prethodnog metoda gde si samo lociran ‘po potrebi’.

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Posted: 25 April 2011 07:48 PM   [ # 6 ]
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Ala si ti istripovao. B) Uopšte se to ne beleži, najbolje pročtaj ovo, pa onda komentariši.

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Posted: 25 April 2011 09:49 PM   [ # 7 ]
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Kako je onda Dachaz (i jos kojesta ljudi po svetu) isplotovao kretanje od ohoho unazad na ovamo? Mislim ako se to ne belezi a covek se istripovao?

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Posted: 25 April 2011 10:03 PM   [ # 8 ]
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Pročtajte detaljno. Ne beleži se istorijat i ne beleže se koordinate telefona, već koordinate ćelija mobilinih operatera i wifi hot-spotova, i to samo onih koje su prisutne poslednji put kada se telefon ‘nakačo’ na njih.

Uostalom, evo šta je Apple još u julu prošle godine poslao zainteresovanima:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9179429/Apple_responds_to_queries_on_its_location_collection_policies

http://markey.house.gov/docs/applemarkeybarton7-12-10.pdf

Post edited by: madamov, at: 2011/04/25 22:08

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Posted: 25 April 2011 10:07 PM   [ # 9 ]
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Još jedan tekst koji lepo objašnjava stvar: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216088/Shock_iPhones_store_location_data_Gimme_a_break…_

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Posted: 25 April 2011 10:15 PM   [ # 10 ]
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Evo i prve tužbe:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-25/apple-sued-over-user-location-data-storage-on-iphones-ipads.html

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Posted: 25 April 2011 10:28 PM   [ # 11 ]
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Computerworld kaze:

Location data isn’t even gathered if location services are turned off.

Sto iz vise primera koje sam video u poslednja dva dana jednostavno nije tacno.

Koliko sam na kratko video snimke, consolidated.db cuva lat/lon koordinate i timestamp od zanimljivih stvari. Ljudi prijavljuju prilicno tacne izvestaje. E zbog tih izvestaja prica o wifi hotspotovima ne pije vodu. Posebno kod nas, nema ih svuda. Ili onaj video gde covek prati svoje kretanje _vozom_, nesto ne verujem da duz cele pruge cuce hotspotovi da bi ih iPhone uhvatio.

Uglavnom, bar za mene, to da li sam posten pa nema za sta da me uhvate nije tema. Ni to da li google radi slicnu stvar—boo google al ako je jos neko ukrao ima nas vise samo time nisam manje kriv. Tema je zasto baza zivi vecno na primer. Ili zasto nije opciona stvar.

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Posted: 25 April 2011 11:02 PM   [ # 12 ]
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Najbolja izjava je od Fake Stev Jobsa:
‘I may not be following you on Twitter, but if you have an iPhone…’

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Posted: 25 April 2011 11:23 PM   [ # 13 ]
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Pročtati ono što sam linkovao Nemesisu:

http://geothought.blogspot.com/2011/04/scoop-apples-iphone-is-not-storing-your.html

Ukratko, ništa se ne šalje Appleu već je ta ‘mapa’ ono što se skinulo sa Appleove baze, iliti lista koordinata WiFi spotova i ćelija mobilne telefonije koje Apple ima u bazi, a u blizini je mesta a kojem se telefon nalazi.

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Posted: 26 April 2011 12:08 AM   [ # 14 ]
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Cek cek. Sta se sad skinulo sa Appleove baze i kada? Ako bilo sta skida iz baze onda iPhone ‘zove kuci’ sto mislim da nije tacno. Za sada apsolutno niko nije ni pomenuo da se bilo sta salje Appleu, osim ove recenice u prethodnom postu.

Ako appleu treba spisak hotspotova u kom trenutku je hteo da ih preuzme bez pitanja?

Ako se hotspotovi preuzimaju od Applea(?!) onda Apple ima bas precizan spisak hotspotova u Srbiji i okruzenju, svuda kuda se Dacha kreato? Nema bas logike zar ne?

Ako iPhone konsultuje Apple da bi ‘skinuo iz baze’ koliko cesto to radi i zasto ta opsta ‘skinuta’ baza ne moze da se nadje? Ovo pitam jer celo ‘hotspot’ objasnjenje ne pije vodu.

Zasto precizan timestamp i zasto neogranicen log?

Sve ovo pitam zato sto Dacha na primer nije dobio spisak hotspotova u Beogradu nego preciznu rutu kojom se selio. A opste BG baze nigde nema na njegovom telefonu.

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Posted: 26 April 2011 12:28 AM   [ # 15 ]
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Mozda sam istripovao ali ovo se trenutno desava:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-25/apple-accused-in-suit-of-tracking-ipad-iphone-user-location-1-.html

‘We take issue specifically with the notion that Apple is now basically tracking people everywhere they go,’ Aaron Mayer, an attorney for the plaintiffs, said today in a telephone interview. ‘If you are a federal marshal you have to have a warrant to do this kind of thing, and Apple is doing it without one.’

The two plaintiffs, an iPhone user in Florida and an iPad user in New York, are asking a judge to bar Apple from collecting the location data and requesting refunds for the purchase prices for their devices, claiming that they would not have bought them if they had known about the data collection.

Apple has declined to officially comment on the lawsuit.

I na kraju Sv Steva kaze ‘Da ne prate VISE’

There has obviously been a lot of discussion about last week’s disclosure that iOS devices are maintaining an easily-accessible database tracking the movements of users dating back to the introduction of iOS 4 a year ago. The issue has garnered the attention of U.S. elected officials and has played fairly heavily in the mainstream press.

One MacRumors reader emailed Apple CEO Steve Jobs asking for clarification on the issue while hinting about a switch to Android if adequate explanations are not forthcoming. Jobs reportedly responded, turning the tables by claiming both that Apple does not track users and that Android does while referring to the information about iOS shared in the media as ‘false’.

Q: Steve,

Could you please explain the necessity of the passive location-tracking tool embedded in my iPhone? It’s kind of unnerving knowing that my exact location is being recorded at all times. Maybe you could shed some light on this for me before I switch to a Droid. They don’t track me.

A: Oh yes they do. We don’t track anyone. The info circulating around is false.

Sent from my iPhone
As is Jobs’ usual style, his brief comments provide little detail or information to support his claims, and his vagueness leaves things rather open to interpretation.

Android has been shown to also gather location information, but the database is limited to a much smaller list of entries and is regularly wiped by the system. Jobs’ email seems to explicitly claim, however, that Google’s location information is used to track users while Apple’s is not.

Apple responded to some questions about location tracking and privacy last July, noting that users have the ability to turn off location services entirely and that all location features require explicit authorization from the user. The Wall Street Journal has found, however, that this newly-publicized database is constructed even when location services are turned off entirely.

The Journal tested the collection of data on an iPhone 4 that had been restored to factory settings and was running the latest version of Apple’s iOS operating system.

The Journal disabled location services (which are on by default) and immediately recorded the data that had initially been gathered by the phone. The Journal then carried the phone to new locations and observed the data. Over the span of several hours as the phone was moved, it continued to collect location data from new places.
As many observers have noted, the iOS location database does not record exact GPS data, instead seeking to pinpoint the locations of Wi-Fi access points and cell towers that the device comes within range of, although the database does offer a clear general track of a user’s movements.

In the meantime, government agencies in a number of countries have launched investigations into the situation, seeking explanations from Apple and details on how users can protect their privacy.

Eto toliko o tripovanjima, a podizu se sudske parnice.

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