‹ First  < 2 3 4
4 of 4
iMac, MB - fleke unutar LCDa
Posted: 29 May 2011 07:07 PM   [ # 46 ]
Jr. Member
RankRank
Total Posts:  34
Joined  2008-07-23

Koliko se inace naplacuje ciscenje ekrana, i ko to radi sa foruma? Cisto informativno da znam. 😉

Profile
 
Posted: 29 May 2011 09:07 PM   [ # 47 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1880
Joined  2007-08-04

120-150 evra za 27’
Rade zarezak, appleservis,... možda još neki, ali me mrzi da sad tražim.

Profile
 
Posted: 09 June 2011 03:58 AM   [ # 48 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  196
Joined  2010-09-03

Hmm…a dok je pod garancijom…jel rade to u servisu free ? Ili menjaju panel i kod žutice i kod prašine ? 😉

 Signature 

A Smile Can Hide A Thousand Words

Profile
 
Posted: 09 June 2011 05:20 AM   [ # 49 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1880
Joined  2007-08-04

Dok je pod garancijom menjaju ti ceo panel, koliko god puta treba, ali loša stvar je što ih menjaju sa tzv. refubrished komadima, tj. onima koji su prošli postupak čšćenja panela koji sam ja sproveo - ne dobija se ganc nov panel, bar tako tvrde ljudi sa foruma, što je po meni sramota.

Profile
 
Posted: 17 June 2011 01:32 PM   [ # 50 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  470
Joined  2007-05-15

Serial number: W89043*****
Name: iMac Intel (Early 2009)
Model: imac_early_09
Group1: iMac
Group2: Intel
Generation: 6
ModelCode: imac_early_09
Machine Model: iMac9,1
Model introduced: 2009
Production year: 2009
Production week: 04 (January)
Production number: 3936 (within this week)

imali smo jos jedan isti ovakav ali smo ga prodali i imao je isti problem.

i na jednom, i na drugom je tri puta menjan display u GlobeNetu… i opet isto.

ovaj ima zute flek od gore ne dole u gornjem delu ekrana.

 Signature 

http://milan.kovac.cc

Profile
 
Posted: 02 December 2011 05:49 PM   [ # 51 ]
Newbie
Rank
Total Posts:  17
Joined  2010-11-27

apple bi trebao da svima koj traze zameni ekrane i posle isteka garancije.

na forummima vidim da to sporadicno i rade

jer je ocigledno fabricka greska, nije do korisnika

zato treba potpisati ovu peticiju appleu, ovde:

http://www.change.org/petitions/customer-support-provide-replacement-for-faulty-screens-in-imacs-from-2009-to-2011


pozz

Profile
 
Posted: 06 December 2011 06:02 AM   [ # 52 ]
Newbie
Rank
Total Posts:  17
Joined  2010-11-27

P.S.
Ima sanse da Apple odobri produzenje garancije za slucaj fleka na displeju.

Vidim da je nekoliko vlasnika iz SRB potpisalo peticiju na Change.org, za sada ukupno 32, sto je premalo, pa bih predlozio da svi potpisemo jos jednu, koja ima mnogo vise imena.

Na Francuskom, je, ali nije problem i bez google prevoda:

UVOD:

http://lesindignes-dapple.dyndns.biz/Les_Indignes_dApple__Taches_grises_sur_lecran_de_liMac/English_version.html

OVDE POTPISATI:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGxnVEF2a2RRNUo0bEJhN1BWZHFVRnc6MQ


pozz:)

Profile
 
Posted: 12 December 2011 11:47 PM   [ # 53 ]
Newbie
Rank
Total Posts:  17
Joined  2010-11-27

Aple tvrdi da je uzrok u prevelikoj prasini u okruzenju racunara (‘environmental issue’) ali ovde je izneta druga dijagnoza:

da se fleke pojavljuju zbog pregrejanosti LCD panela, a ne zbog prasine ili kondenzacije, te da Apple treba da prizna gresku, ponudi svima zamenu LCD-a, i naravno promeni konstrukciju iMaca unbuduce.

link:

https://discussions.apple.com/message/16984053#16984053

Re: Greyish Smudge marks behind the glass screen.
created by Humble Pie

I spent an hour discussing this problem with an engineer who has experience with LCD panels.

Here was his conclusion:


ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS IRRELEVANT WITH LCD PANELS
1.) The individual cells of an LCD are sealed.
2.) Dust does not effect LCD cells.
3.) Moisture/Vapor/Humidity/Water do not effect LCD cells. Since the cells are sealed there is no way for water of any kind to enter the cell. In fact, he’s submerged LCD panels in water for 4-5 hours (to remove various protective layers from the panels) and then turned them on after they’ve dried.

SMEARING/SMUDGES ARE CLEARLY CAUSED BY EXCESSIVE HEAT

The engineer looked at the various photos on this thread as well as my iMac and without skipping a beat he said ‘Your LCD panel is too hot.’ I asked him if he’d ever seen this before. He responded ‘Oh, yeah. I’ve accidentally exposed LCD panels to a heat source 4-5 times and caused this exact problem. The individual cells contain liquid crystals. If they’re exposed to excess heat and begin to boil these smudges are the result. It gets worse over time because the panel is consistently being subjected to overheating causing more cells to boil and leak. This stuff is really simple; dead cells are black, working cells emit a full range of colors and cells that have boiled off some of their fluid are grey. What you have is clear, obvious, scientific proof that the LCD is being overheated, that the cells are boiling off some of that fluid, the cells are bursting and the fluid is staining the inside of your panel. The only way to fix this is to redesign the iMac.’

QUALIFICATIONS OF ENGINEER
My engineering partner has worked professionally with LCD panels for over 5 years. He’s personally assembled over 500 units that required custom LCD panel installation. He is a professional engineer who previously worked for Bell Labs as well as private firms with military contracts. He has experience in electrical engineering, electronics, optics, IR and projection.


CONCLUSION

I’m now convinced that the iMac has serious overheating issues and that it is cooking the LCD panel.

Anyone who has ever been told their environment is to blame has been deceived. Smoking, dust, a clean room, humidity…none of these are factors when dealing with a technology sealed from the outside world. Heat and heat alone is the culprit to this issue. This is a design flaw in the iMac. It deserves a recall and a redesign.

Post edited by: moonlight, at: 2011/12/13 00:07

Post edited by: moonlight, at: 2011/12/13 00:08

Profile
 
Posted: 13 December 2011 09:16 AM   [ # 54 ]
Sr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  1786
Joined  2005-05-08

Razumeo bih da tip govori (lupeta) o zutim flekama ali posto govori o sivim, ta prica nema smisla. Iz prostog razloga sto su ljudi vec otvarali panele i cistili tu istu prasinu za koju taj inzenjer tvrdi da nije u pitanju. A mozda se prosto nije ogradio od naslova ali ko to zna.

Uzevsi to u obzir, jedino vece lupetanje koje sam procitao u tekstu je Appleovo, ukoliko je istina da su to rekli, da je krivac za pojavu fleka prevelika kolicina prasine u okruzenju. Ovo je pravo moronsko i pride vrlo bezobrazno objasnjenje uzroka problema. Panel je ili nepropusan za ulazak prasine ili je lose projektovan/izradjen. Treceg nema. To sto je kod nekoga manje ili vise prasine u blizini racunara, to ne utice na cinjenicu da u panelu postoje putanje strujanja vazduha koje tu istu prasinu mogu dovesti u sam panel (u zazore izmedju njegovih slojeva). Da ta prica ima smisla, apsolutno svako bi imao prasinu u ekranu iMaca, samo bi se razlikovao period nakon kojeg bi se nakupila u dovoljnoj kolicini da bude vidljiva. Previse prasine u okruzenju moze da bude uzrok zapusenja filtera, zapusenja finova na izmenjivacu, rotora ili shafta ventilatora, itd. ali ako vazduh sa tom prasinom dospeva u druge delove racunara (npr. ekran) to je jednostavno los dizajn i/ili izrada i tacka.

Naravno, poenta je da nema potrebe da se izmisljaju novi razlozi za zamenu ekrana od strane Applea, jer ne znam koliko da je prasnjava sredina u kojoj racunar radi, ukoliko je prasina u ekranu to je potpuno validan razlog za zamenu ekrana. Mislim, ako se Apple vec zaista pere od tako ocigledne dizajnerske/proizvodjacke greske, sigurno ce jos lakse da se ogradi od te price o pregrevanju i sl.

Verovatno ce i ovo uzeti da menjaju kao i white MacBook palm rest case, nakon dovoljno proteklih godina, kada ce se dovoljno velikom procentu ljudi vise fuckati za matoru masinu ili kada pogube/izblede im racuni, sa sve ‘ko vas jb sto ih niste imali skenirane’ i sl.

 Signature 

10 HOME
20 SWEET
30 GO TO 10

Profile
 
‹ First  < 2 3 4
4 of 4